Comments for Aletheuo http://aletheuo.org.uk "speaking the truth in love" - Ephesians 4:15 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:30:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on What do you see in your clouds? by Steph http://aletheuo.org.uk/2012/02/15/what-do-you-see-in-your-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-2113 Steph Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:30:13 +0000 http://unitedinjesus.org.uk/fd-home/?p=826#comment-2113 Hi sis! So very glad this blessed you and encouraged you. All is well with us down here and I trust with you too :-D xx Hi sis!
So very glad this blessed you and encouraged you. All is well with us down here and I trust with you too :-D xx

]]> Comment on What do you see in your clouds? by lyn http://aletheuo.org.uk/2012/02/15/what-do-you-see-in-your-clouds/comment-page-1/#comment-2111 lyn Mon, 20 Feb 2012 02:24:15 +0000 http://unitedinjesus.org.uk/fd-home/?p=826#comment-2111 Always encouraging to read postings here, thank you sister Steph for this encouraging piece. I pray all is well with you this day. In Christ, Lyn Always encouraging to read postings here, thank you sister Steph for this encouraging piece. I pray all is well with you this day.

In Christ,
Lyn

]]> Comment on Perseverence of the Saints – by Tony Warren by Steph http://aletheuo.org.uk/2012/01/24/perseverence-of-the-saints-by-tony-warren/comment-page-1/#comment-2040 Steph Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:37:26 +0000 http://aletheuo.org.uk/?p=6332#comment-2040 John thank you for posting this - it was a really wonderful, comprehensive and uplifting read Bless you :-D John thank you for posting this – it was a really wonderful, comprehensive and uplifting read
Bless you :-D

]]> Comment on Coming to Christ by Danny http://aletheuo.org.uk/2011/05/17/coming-to-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-2038 Danny Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:46:06 +0000 http://aletheuo.org.uk/?p=5081#comment-2038 When Jesus set's you "FREE" you're "FREE" indeed!! Thank you Lord for I was lost now I am Found, I was once Blind But now I see. Father thank you for your son Jesus!!! When Jesus set’s you “FREE” you’re “FREE” indeed!! Thank you Lord for I was lost now I am Found, I was once Blind But now I see. Father thank you for your son Jesus!!!

]]> Comment on The Characteristics of Sheep by The Characteristics of Shepherds « Aletheuo http://aletheuo.org.uk/2011/12/06/the-characteristics-of-sheep/comment-page-1/#comment-1747 The Characteristics of Shepherds « Aletheuo Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:35:29 +0000 http://aletheuo.org.uk/?p=5906#comment-1747 [...] The Characteristics of Sheep [...] [...] The Characteristics of Sheep [...]

]]> Comment on Why the Early Church Finally Rejected Premillennialism by Doug in CO http://aletheuo.org.uk/2011/09/29/why-the-early-church-finally-rejected-premillennialism/comment-page-1/#comment-1741 Doug in CO Tue, 06 Dec 2011 02:20:17 +0000 http://aletheuo.org.uk/?p=5622#comment-1741 "Why do they leave out all the Old Testament prophecies concerning what the millinium kingdom will look like?" This line is interesting to me. Though there are numerous passages in the Old Testament where ideal conditions exist (or, at least in the mind of people 2,000 years or more ago. You'll notice a distinct lack of free wifi or air travel in the ideal future of the Bible) none of them refer to themselves as "The Millennium". Two favorite chapters usually identified with the Millennium, Isaiah 65-66, internally label themselves as part of the New Heaven and New Earth (complete with people still dying, people unsaved people still being evangelized, etc.). So my challenge to you is to come up with Old Testament passages that are unambiguously part of the Millennium (a concept only found explicitly in a small portion of the end of Revelation). Doug “Why do they leave out all the Old Testament prophecies concerning what the millinium kingdom will look like?”

This line is interesting to me. Though there are numerous passages in the Old Testament where ideal conditions exist (or, at least in the mind of people 2,000 years or more ago. You’ll notice a distinct lack of free wifi or air travel in the ideal future of the Bible) none of them refer to themselves as “The Millennium”. Two favorite chapters usually identified with the Millennium, Isaiah 65-66, internally label themselves as part of the New Heaven and New Earth (complete with people still dying, people unsaved people still being evangelized, etc.). So my challenge to you is to come up with Old Testament passages that are unambiguously part of the Millennium (a concept only found explicitly in a small portion of the end of Revelation).

Doug

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]]> Comment on Why the Early Church Finally Rejected Premillennialism by Andy http://aletheuo.org.uk/2011/09/29/why-the-early-church-finally-rejected-premillennialism/comment-page-1/#comment-1488 Andy Mon, 03 Oct 2011 07:31:33 +0000 http://aletheuo.org.uk/?p=5622#comment-1488 Hi John, Thanks for that explanation. I read it differently and it didn't seem to make much sense. I don't know whether I necessarily agree with the conclusion but at least I understand what he is saying. By the way I've heard of snap, crackle and pop for breakfast but I think you've taken things a bit too far :) Does it also mean I can safely call you a few tiles short of a scrabble board now :D God bless, Andy Hi John,

Thanks for that explanation. I read it differently and it didn’t seem to make much sense.
I don’t know whether I necessarily agree with the conclusion but at least I understand what he is saying.

By the way I’ve heard of snap, crackle and pop for breakfast but I think you’ve taken things a bit too far :) Does it also mean I can safely call you a few tiles short of a scrabble board now :D

God bless,

Andy

]]> Comment on Why the Early Church Finally Rejected Premillennialism by Darrel http://aletheuo.org.uk/2011/09/29/why-the-early-church-finally-rejected-premillennialism/comment-page-1/#comment-1487 Darrel Sun, 02 Oct 2011 23:09:13 +0000 http://aletheuo.org.uk/?p=5622#comment-1487 Why do all the a-mill guys raise questions, leave doubts and never give any definitive answers? Why do they all want to delete Rev. 20 from any discussion as if it is poison? (maybe it's just poison to their way of thinking). Why do they leave out all the Old Testament prophecies concerning what the millinium kingdom will look like? How do they think that God will look the other way as they call Him a liar? Are they immune to the warning given in Rev. 22 to leave God's Word intact? Why won't they say that things are as good as they will ever be for Israel and that what is happening today, Oct.2,2011 is the best that God can do for His chosen people? When will those who claim to know Christ stop believing the foolishness of such liars? Why do all the a-mill guys raise questions, leave doubts and never give any definitive answers? Why do they all want to delete Rev. 20 from any discussion as if it is poison? (maybe it’s just poison to their way of thinking). Why do they leave out all the Old Testament prophecies concerning what the millinium kingdom will look like? How do they think that God will look the other way as they call Him a liar? Are they immune to the warning given in Rev. 22 to leave God’s Word intact? Why won’t they say that things are as good as they will ever be for Israel and that what is happening today, Oct.2,2011 is the best that God can do for His chosen people? When will those who claim to know Christ stop believing the foolishness of such liars?

]]> Comment on Why the Early Church Finally Rejected Premillennialism by John http://aletheuo.org.uk/2011/09/29/why-the-early-church-finally-rejected-premillennialism/comment-page-1/#comment-1486 John Sun, 02 Oct 2011 21:54:43 +0000 http://aletheuo.org.uk/?p=5622#comment-1486 <blockquote>Modern premillennialism, in its several forms, has indeed undergone certain transmutations from its ancient ancestor, some of which are improvements, some arguably not. It may be possible to develop a premillennialism which obviates the worst of chiliasm’s pitfalls in antiquity. But the more challenging question will always be whether any form of chiliasm can ever be shown to be the view of the New Testament writers.</blockquote> After consulting my dictionary and eating a few scrabble tiles for breakfast, I've re-read the following portion of text that you quoted from previously, along with the question of its meaning. It seems to me that what is being spoken of, is similar to the theology of progressive dispensationalism. Whereas I'm not really sure of the differences between historic premillennialism and its modern variations, I'm a little more familiar with some of the transformations in dispensationalism. There are some within dispensationalist circles who seem to have rejected some of the more hardline teachings of the likes of Darby and Schofield etc., and have sort of merged their dispensationalist views with other views that would be considered those of covenantal theologians. To be honest I find it hard to get my head around, as it always strikes me as a paradox to one degree or another, a little like the reformed charismatic camp that is popular today too. As far as I can tell, the bottom line of this article is suggesting that, regardless of how palatable premillennialism is made, it still remains near on impossible to show it to be the view of any of the New Testament writers. That's why, or at least it seems to me anyway, is why an argument for premillennialism always seems to be based primarily in the Old Testament prophecies, and not from New Testament understanding. Apart from Revelation 20 of course. ;) God bless, John

Modern premillennialism, in its several forms, has indeed undergone certain transmutations from its ancient ancestor, some of which are improvements, some arguably not. It may be possible to develop a premillennialism which obviates the worst of chiliasm’s pitfalls in antiquity. But the more challenging question will always be whether any form of chiliasm can ever be shown to be the view of the New Testament writers.

After consulting my dictionary and eating a few scrabble tiles for breakfast, I’ve re-read the following portion of text that you quoted from previously, along with the question of its meaning.

It seems to me that what is being spoken of, is similar to the theology of progressive dispensationalism. Whereas I’m not really sure of the differences between historic premillennialism and its modern variations, I’m a little more familiar with some of the transformations in dispensationalism.

There are some within dispensationalist circles who seem to have rejected some of the more hardline teachings of the likes of Darby and Schofield etc., and have sort of merged their dispensationalist views with other views that would be considered those of covenantal theologians. To be honest I find it hard to get my head around, as it always strikes me as a paradox to one degree or another, a little like the reformed charismatic camp that is popular today too.

As far as I can tell, the bottom line of this article is suggesting that, regardless of how palatable premillennialism is made, it still remains near on impossible to show it to be the view of any of the New Testament writers. That’s why, or at least it seems to me anyway, is why an argument for premillennialism always seems to be based primarily in the Old Testament prophecies, and not from New Testament understanding. Apart from Revelation 20 of course. ;)

God bless,

John

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